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  • Topic: SS2 Vurt's Water Read 81169 times QUICK HELP: 1. Install the game, 2. Patch it with SS2Tool, 3. Download the attached archive, 4. Load it with Blue Mod Manager6426fe1c22d67vurt

  • #0 Report Quote Reply 30. September 2012, 17:16:43 6426fe1c22dddTags: texture MTL SS2Old version (19 frames):Image: Version 3. 70 frames: =SNCPLeuNfz0version 4. Like version 3 but processed further, less transparent, darker, a bit more "hectic".Image: "vanilla inspired version". 30 frames, 512x512:Image: version 5 (30 frames, 512x512. fairly slow moving, most realistic looking version yet). *updated, should now animate more smoothly*Image: Pool Water (resource for mods)Image: Attachments (newest on top) Vurt's Pool Water (Resource).7z Vurt's Pool Water (Resource).7z Vurt's Pool Water (Resource).7z3 MB, 6751 downloads Vurt_Env_map_for_SS2_water.7z Vurt_Env_map_for_SS2_water.7z Vurt_Env_map_for_SS2_water.7z9 KB, 7136 downloads Vurt's SS2 Water v5.1.7z Vurt's SS2 Water v5.1.7z Vurt's SS2 Water v5.1.7z4 MB, 31068 downloads Vurt Water VanillaInspired 1.0.7z Vurt Water VanillaInspired 1.0.7z Vurt Water VanillaInspired 1.0.7z4 MB, 2940 downloads Vurt's SS2 Water v4.7z Vurt's SS2 Water v4.7z Vurt's SS2 Water v4.7z4 MB, 2527 downloads Vurt's SS2 Water v3.7z Vurt's SS2 Water v3.7z Vurt's SS2 Water v3.7z4 MB, 1545 downloads Vurt's SS2 Water (old version).7z Vurt's SS2 Water (old version).7z Vurt's SS2 Water (old version).7z6 MB, 1274 downloads Last Edit: 04. November 2014, 18:32:29 by voodoo47 Acknowledged by: TheSarcasticCanadian6426fe1c22feeZylonBane

  • #1 Report Quote Reply 30. September 2012, 18:03:32Re: Vurt's SS2 Water 6426fe1c2305970 frames? Egad. What's the frame resolution?6426fe1c230fdvurt

  • #2 Report Quote Reply 30. September 2012, 22:10:22Re: Vurt's SS2 Water 6426fe1c23150frame resolution? you mean the texture size? 256x256.6426fe1c231f3krist2

  • #3 Report Quote Reply 30. September 2012, 22:23:03Re: Vurt's SS2 Water 6426fe1c23247Nice mod, tried both of them, and also liked the old one best 6426fe1c232d8vurt

  • #4 Report Quote Reply 02. October 2012, 12:39:38Re: Vurt's SS2 Water 6426fe1c2332cAdded version 3 and a youtube link to how it looks.6426fe1c233fdValiant

  • #5 Report Quote Reply 02. October 2012, 19:43:47Re: Vurt's SS2 Water 6426fe1c23459Thanks for a great mod, man. Everyone appreciates the work you guys do making our old-school games easy on the eyeballs, really helps encourage new playthroughs.6426fe1c236adZylonBane

  • #6 Report Quote Reply 02. October 2012, 19:58:33Re: Vurt's SS2 Water 6426fe1c23705Quote by vurt:frame resolution? you mean the texture size? 256x256.Then YOU mean "70 textures of animation". 6426fe1c237fdvurt

  • #7 Report Quote Reply 02. October 2012, 20:53:53Re: Vurt's SS2 Water 6426fe1c23850One texture is one frame, should be pretty obvious to anyone it the same princible as in the old cartoons, 1 piece of paper is one frame.6426fe1c23b46ZylonBane

  • #8 Report Quote Reply 02. October 2012, 21:00:27Re: Vurt's SS2 Water 6426fe1c23b92Quote by vurt:One texture is one frame, should be pretty obvious to anyone Quote by vurt:frame resolution?6426fe1c23c26vurt

  • #9 Report Quote Reply 02. October 2012, 21:08:01Re: Vurt's SS2 Water 6426fe1c23c72Added a new version which is inspired by the default water, same color value (well, close enough) and has some added artificial lightning.ZB: not even sure what kind of stupid point you're trying to make, just fuck off and do something creative instead? 6426fe1c23d82voodoo47

  • #10 Report Quote Reply 02. October 2012, 21:17:15Re: Vurt's SS2 Water 6426fe1c23dd1is it just me, or is something dithery going on with the latest waters? it's like they are not rendered in 32bit or something. linking png screenshot. =0B6HbtMBk0pYzWVh2VFZzbno0bzg6426fe1c23fd4ZylonBane

  • #11 Report Quote Reply 02. October 2012, 21:43:17Re: Vurt's SS2 Water 6426fe1c24024Quote by vurt:ZB: not even sure what kind of stupid point you're trying to make, just fuck off and do something creative instead?First you acted confused that I used "frame" and "texture" interchangeably, then you asserted that obviously they mean the same thing. Pick a stance and stick with it, eh crabbypants?6426fe1c24236vurt

  • #12 Report Quote Reply 02. October 2012, 21:50:54Re: Vurt's SS2 Water 6426fe1c24286Quote by voodoo47:is it just me, or is something dithery going on with the latest waters? it's like they are not rendered in 32bit or something. linking png screenshot. =0B6HbtMBk0pYzWVh2VFZzbno0bzgI think it's because i've darkened the hell out of the textures.. unfortunately this adds artifacts, it doesnt go well together with the transparency. Imo it's no big deal unless you really study it in very close detail. I could also try saving the textures with interpolated alpha, dont know if it would help. Edit: try V5.. i couldnt spot any artifacts in that one.. it came out pretty good, probably the most realistic version yet.ZB: "frame resolution" sounded pretty damn strange that's all, wasnt sure you really meant the textures or something entirely different (like a value in the .mtl or something). Can we move on? Last Edit: 03. October 2012, 00:00:00 by vurt 6426fe1c24607blaydes99

  • #13 Report Quote Reply 04. October 2012, 21:14:25Re: Vurt's SS2 Water 6426fe1c246a3I'll also be trying this mod tonight. I always enjoy your work, thanks again.6426fe1c24922blaydes99

  • #14 Report Quote Reply 05. October 2012, 07:23:58Re: Vurt's SS2 Water 6426fe1c2499aHey vurt, just wondering why you did set an animation rate in the .mtl files? I felt the default SS2/gamesys water animation rate was terrible, so I made sure both .mtl files had "force_ani_settings 1" then I added "ani_rate 60" to both and now the water animates smooth and natural. (this was with water v3)6426fe1c24a9bvurt

  • #15 Report Quote Reply 05. October 2012, 11:43:37Re: Vurt's SS2 Water 6426fe1c24b09that doesnt work for the water.. there's no difference using ani_rate 60 or ani_rate 1.. i've checked numerous times using force_ani_settings 1.6426fe1c24cadblaydes99

  • #16 Report Quote Reply 05. October 2012, 16:20:02Re: Vurt's SS2 Water 6426fe1c24d12Hmm, but it does for me. Using your water v3, I noticed that one of your .mtl files doesn't have the line "force_ani_settings 1" so I added it, as well as adding "ani_rate 60" to each. Try adding both of those lines to each of your .mtl files under /fam/waterhw and watch the magic happen. The water looks almost pixel-shader quality on my system now!As ani_rate sets the animation rate in milliseconds, I've also experimented with ani_rate 30, ani_rate 100, etc. and ani_rate 60 seems to be the best balance. 30 was nice but just was too fast to feel natural.I didn't realize that until now no one was seeing the same effect I achived last night. You seriously gotta see this in action, it makes a world of difference. Last Edit: 05. October 2012, 16:37:12 by blaydes99 6426fe1c24e4dvurt

  • #17 Report Quote Reply 05. October 2012, 17:06:09Re: Vurt's SS2 Water 6426fe1c24eafThere's no difference between ani_rate 1 and ani_rate 600 when applying it to water, i've tested it numerous times. What you're seeing is most probably placebo. Has anyone else here tried it? I've used this value a lot when perfecting the ani_rate on the biomatter goo, and there's a huge difference of ani_rate 1 and 600 when this value is working. Look at my youtube videos (both thief and SS2), the animation is perfectly smooth. 6426fe1c252efblaydes99

  • #18 Report Quote Reply 05. October 2012, 18:17:27Re: Vurt's SS2 Water 6426fe1c2536dQuote by vurt:There's no difference between ani_rate 1 and ani_rate 600 when applying it to water, i've tested it numerous times. What you're seeing is most probably placebo. Has anyone else here tried it?Oh, it's most definitely not placebo. When I set animation rate to 250 it's slow and jerky, and something like 60 or 30 and it animates really fast and smooth. I can tell you have a lot of other mods going on your machine so you might have a conflict somewhere that is creating the issue.I should note that I have all my mods in a "\mods\ss2mods" folder and I then add this path to my cam_mod.ini file. For example, I put "mod_path mods\ss2mods" to enable all mods in this subfolder.6426fe1c25458vurt

  • #19 Report Quote Reply 05. October 2012, 18:39:44Re: Vurt's SS2 Water 6426fe1c254b8really strange, i guess it's because you have made some change to cam_mod.ini, i havent touched my install except for installing v119 and my own mods.I'll do a reinstall and check to be sure later tonite.6426fe1c255cdZylonBane

  • #20 Report Quote Reply 05. October 2012, 18:49:33Re: Vurt's SS2 Water 6426fe1c25627Don't reinstall just yet. Setting the animation rate for water does work. Post the MTL file you're using here, and/or try putting some other commands in it to verify that it's actually controlling the texture.Don't forget that the material system allows multiple texture passes. So you can increase randomness by layering two texture sequences with a different frame count. But with that sort of thing comes the need to be aware of how much VRAM your animation is chewing up.6426fe1c25862vurt

  • #21 Report Quote Reply 05. October 2012, 19:12:46Re: Vurt's SS2 Water 6426fe1c258dfDo you have an example of how a layered .mtl file would look? That would be very interesting to try for sure, can i use 2 different textures also you mean?I've tried every possible combination for water.. right now i have this in blin.mtl:force_ani_settings 1terrain_scale 256ani_rate 255255 was just to test and it's as smooth as ever. scale works without problems, also ani_rate works for the goo but for the water i've never gotten it to work, not on this new install and not on the previous.. maybe i'm missing something, i didnt install that ss2tool v4.4 or whatever its called again.6426fe1c25b29blaydes99

  • #22 Report Quote Reply 05. October 2012, 19:25:16Re: Vurt's SS2 Water 6426fe1c25b87You aren't still using DDfix by any chance are you? At any rate, I hope you can figure it out. I'd like to see this water as you intended it.Note from /doc/material-format.txt (not really for you vurt but some important info for all modders):ani_rate -------------- Animation rate, specified as milliseconds per frame, for animated textures. Default is 250. The "Texture Anim Data" property in DromEd overrides any material setting, unless "force_ani_settings" is set. If the texture isn't animated the parameter is ignored. This parameter only has an effect on objects where "Texture Anim Data" would also have an effect. Ex: ani_rate 33There's then a whole bunch of sweet goodness in the render_pass ... section (covers all render passes, etc.) Last Edit: 05. October 2012, 19:32:34 by blaydes99 6426fe1c25c88vurt

#23 Report Quote Reply 05. October 2012, 19:58:17Re: Vurt's SS2 Water 6426fe1c25ce4You were absolutely right, it does work.. i reinstalled and did everything by the book including drag/drop the sshock folder and then SS2tool v.4.4, now it works. Yes 60 actually does improve it even slightly from how it looked before Nice. I'll update the mod with the new settings.Just checked Thief 2, it's the same thing there, at ani_rate 255 it's still very smooth.. doh.. guess i'll have to reinstall it too. Very odd, it's also a fresh install.




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